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Indy’s BLOG – Deposit, fees and contract!

email to Jellyhairs.,

Hello JellyMommy,

I want you to know that I am a bit confused about the content of your last email, it seem that there is a communication issue which lead to some misunderstandings. I don’t want any further escalation and therefor I reread all emails and will summarize the complete communication below.

My first contact with the previous tenant was arranged without your help and we agreed that I will take over the main lease with one remaining and one new sub-let tenant. He informed you about this and I contacted JellyHairs via telephone, asked him about the conditions and send him my details via email 19 February 2018 at 13:15. It was agreed that he will send the new contract to the owner to be signed. He didn’t mentioned any other needed IDs or whatever and I was under the impression that you already got the details from the other two. Also he didn’t said anything about any fees to be paid.

On the 26th of February 2018 at 09:09 I contacted JellyHairs again  and asked for the contract and he told me that it was send to the owner this weekend.

On the 27th February 2018 at 12:24 I received a copy of the contract with the wrong tenants. I remarked that and JellyHairs asked me to send the list of tenants to him. You where obviously not aware of the actual tenants living in the apartment. I arranged that you received the details from the other tenants.

I also asked the following questions.

Question 1: Do you have the contract in English?

This questions was not answered. For me it’s quite irritating that your are not able to supply an English translation and not answered my question.

Question 2: Which additional cost to pay monthly or yearly? Maintenance, Waste, Water or insurance?

I was told to ask the previous tenant. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I deal was with you and not the previous tenant.

Question 3: How to pay the deposit? You already have one part of the deposit?

Answer: Will make the calculation for you after check-in

Question 4: How to pay the monthly rent? Everyone by himself or all via me?

Answer: Via You.

Question 5: Which additional papers I need to register at the Gemeente?

Contract.

Question 6: Who is the actual owner? Is he living next door? I dont understand the address.

Address is the same but lives out of the Netherlands.

Question 7; Anything else you need?

NO!

Also again no mentioning of a service fee to be paid.

Just to let you know:

Alfred and I arranged the move for Thursday. The Other One will supply us with the keys.

… I also Informed JellyHairs that we arranged to move and we need the keys and want to keep them. No comment from his side.

28 February 2018 at 13:23 I confirmed ID to be sent.

28 February 2018 at 14:53 you send me an email to meet JellyHairs at 15:30 at the flat and understandable I was not able to meet him on such very short notice. You remember, that I lived in City Centre at that time and to pop over would need more than 45 minutes anyway. I responded 28 February 2018 at 15:14.

28 February 2018 at 20:00 I asked the counts of Gas, Water and Electricity to be noted in the contract and you didn’t replied to this request and I understood that all is sorted now and we are ready to move in.

1 March 2018 at 11:56 You send me a bill for the deposit and administrative fees and told me that we need to pay this immediately or we can’t move in. I send the never mentioned service fee without any complaint.

1 March 2018 at 12:09 The money was send I informed you via email that I am already on the move and asked JellyHairs to be there to arrange everything. I also informed that we need the keys and JellyHairs just took a pair with him. Unfortunately, I send the fee to the landlords account, but that shouldn’t be any issue.

After this I called you and informed you that there is a confusion with the deposit from The Other One, because he already paid it. I also informed you that JellyHairs already agreed to sort the deposit out after we moved in. At that time I still thought that there will be no further issue.

1 March 2018 at 15:28 I called JellyMommy and later I summarized our conversation via email, but you never responded and confirmed our agreement.

Yes, you informed me that there will be a cleaner coming, BUT you didn’t arrange any date with me and she just showed up unannounced, WITH keys to the flat. You will surely understand that this in very irritating to me. Anyhow, I asked her to come in and she cleaned a little bit limestone on the shower, but other than that there was nothing to do anymore, because I cleaned everything already quite a bit.

I want to let you know that I offered the cleaning lady a coffee and asked her nicely to hand over the keys to me. She did that without hesitations or comment, because she understood that this is my flat and I don’t want anyone showing up unannounced with keys. I see this as an intrusion of my privacy. I was aware that someone will come to clean, but again not WHEN. I ask you to respect our privacy and not enter the flat without consent or grant total strangers access.

Anyhow, I overlook the wording ‘intimidating’ in your email, because your English level might not be up to the level that you understand the difference between ‘intimidating’ and ‘inviting’ and just let you know that writing in capital letters, within email communication is considered shouting and I am not willing to accept this kind of attitude from a service provider I pay.

Just to summarize. I paid the requested rent of 1850 Euro and therefor I see our rental agreement as valid. I will list the readings of Gas, Water and Electricity and attach photos as prove.

You never informed beforehand that there is any fee due to pay for your services and I didn’t agree to any fees. Anyhow, I agree to pay after the contract is signed, even I see no basis for your request, because we never had a valid agreement for fees. You will excuse that we send the fee to the wrong account, this was caused by the ‘lack of proper communication’. We will resend the fee after the contract is correctly signed and all is validated.

I kindly request your presence in the flat to sign the contract and document existing damage. Hub, Door, Carpet, Heater Maintenance, .. Also we need to clarify which parts of the storage room contents belongs to the landlord and will remain when we terminate the lease.

Normally I would be a bit more relaxed about this, but I am very irritated about your attitude and I see upcoming problems, so I decided to document all further communication way more exact than needed.

I will send the deposit today and wait for your response to arrange a proper handover. Please let me know when it suits best for you to meet in the flat to document the damage and hand over the contract.

Thank you

Bernd K. R. Dorfmueller

Attached photos:

Meter Gas

Meter Water

Meter Electricity

Scratched Ceran Field

Heating needs to be checked *maintenance is due Error Code P02

Door

Not working blinds

Not working air vent

Filled up storage room

Sink not working *water stays

Indy’s BLOG – Oooooohhhhh you need to pay fees as well.

No real invoice,

Three fonts. Bold. A piece of a table and something written in red.

First time any fees mentioned.

A last call to the Agency to confirm the hand-over.

“Hi there, this is Vil. I just want to confirm that Jellyhair will be present for the hand-over!”

Silence,…. “Did you pay the deposit and the rent?”

“Nope, you need to pay before!”

Vil is a bit confused: “I do have an agreement with Jellyhair that we arrange the deposit and the first rent after we moved in, because there is a previous flatmate who stays and it’s not clear who needs to pay what.”

….

Indy’s BLOG – Moving day!

It’s an existing day, everything is nicely packed and ready for transport. Out while belongings fit into five boxes and one bag. The moving guys will arrive within the next hour and then we are on our way to our new flat. Finally we will have a place we like.

We just need to wait for the agency to confirm their presence.

Indy’s BLOG – Last night in Jan Pieter Heijestraat

We stayed here for around ten months and tonight it’s time to say goodbye. We really enjoyed the flat, a wonderful place where we found peace and the power to start new. It was our nest, the place we enjoyed to live in, but tonight it’s the last night. We already packed everything in boxes, cleaned the floor and now we are ready to move. Finally a place with absolutely no issues.

We will go to Weesp -> Here!

It’s freezing outside, around -15C and you really feel the cold.

Indy’s BLOG – What do you need? We want to move in!

Hello Jellyhair.
I am also a bit confused,because I thought all is in order.
Anyhow. What info do you need to finalize the contract?
Thanks

—-

Dear Vil,

We need from al the tenants:

– Copies of their passports

– Employers statements

– Names and current addresses

Can you come to the apartment at 15.30 today to met Jellyhair?

Dear Jellymother,

I will take care that the documents will be send to you ASAP.
Unfortunately I am not able to meet Max today.
I hope I still can move in tomorrow otherwise I would be in real problems.
Anyhow, have a sunny day.

Indy’s BLOG – The agency is confused

Hi Vil,

I’m confused about the tenant list! This is not how we made the first contract.

Can you please ask Marco to contact me aboud?

Below answers on your questions in BOLD:

Question 1: Do you have the contract in English?

[Comment] Jellyhair just ignored this question.

Question 2: Which additional cost to pay monthly or yearly? Maintenance, Waste, Water or insurance?

You have to ask previous tenant

[Comment] Why should Vil contact the previous tenant? The agency should know this data. They have records of every meter reading.

Question 3: How to pay the deposit? You already have Daniels deposit?

Will make the calculation for you after check-in

[Comment] This answer becomes very important when JellyMommy accuses Vil of lying.

Question 4: How to pay the monthly rent? Everyone by himself or all via me?

Via you

Question 5: Which additional papers I need to register at the Gemeente?

Contract

Question 6: Who is the actual owner? Is he living next door? I don’t understand the address.

Address is the same but lives out of the Netherlands.

Question 7; Anything else you need?

No

[Comment] Vil asked explicitly for anything to be clarified before move in.

We are working on the contract as we finally reserve a message of the owner. I’ll sent you the final contract asap but also need to know what happened with A. Di XXXXX & V.J. XXXXX.

[Comment] WTF? That’s the first time they use confidential customer and disclose them to a non authorized third party.

Indy’s BLOG – First contract with wrong names received.

Hello Jellyhaor,

thank you.
A few remarks.
The tenant list is wrong.
Its:
  • Dave
  • Alfred
  • Vil
Question 1: Do you have the contract in English?
Question 2: Which additional cost to pay monthly or yearly? Maintinance, Waste, Water or insurance?
Question 3: How to pay the deposit? You already have Dave’s deposit?
Question 4: How to pay the monthly rent? Everyone by himself or all via me?
Question 5: Which additional papers I need to register at the Gemeente?
Question 6: Who is the actual owner? Is he living next door? I dont understand the address.
Question 7; Anything else you need?
Just to let you know:
Alfred and I arranged the move for Thursday. Dave will supply us with the keys.
Have a good day
Vil